Friday, October 26, 2007

My Israel Piece, 1

Gosh! I haven't posted since the end of September! Most people think bloggers should post every day! But alas, I am usually too busy. I post here when the Spirit moves me to. Now I realize I should post more, do the Lord's Work every day. But the Lord's Work involves more than just blog posting.

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Who can help but be concerned about the Middle East? Certainly not me. But it is not concern over the Middle East that is prompting this post. It is the various falsehoods put forth among circles and ministries calling themselves "Christian" regarding Israel and Judaism and Zionism that have caused me to try to set the "record" straight. In fact, it'll probably take several posts to do so, thus I am calling this "My Israel Piece, 1".


First of all, Christians will, naturally, have some sort of position on Israel because throughout their lives Christians have been told things such as "Israel is the Chosen People" or Israel is "the apple of God's eye" or the Jews are "the chosen people" or that Christians have a natural affinity to Jews or "the Jews killed Christ but they knew not what they were doing so don't blame Jews, and besides it was really the Romans" and stuff like that. Further, Israel is so much like the US that naturally Americans want to support Israel against the perfidious Arabs, who are so different. In fact I daresay that probably 100% of Christians have some fairly strong opinion about Israel. It has been the position of this blog that while the present-day state of Israel has the right to exist and conduct its affairs to the benefit of its people--as all nations do!--it must be praised when it does the right thing and denounced when it does the wrong thing (in other words, I do not support the position of "Israel Right or Wrong"), and, further, its persecution of Christians within Israel and especially in the Palestinian Occupied Territories must be denounced! Finally, it is my position that the present-day Zionist, secular, state of Israel is NOT GOD's Israel.

However, through research and communication with some individuals in the know, I have been able to wade through the disinformation and come up with a position on Israel that pretty much jibes with what is in the Bible. Today in this post I want to discuss the veracity of "Christian Zionism" as to whether it holds to Bible truth. I also want to get into the Judaism-Zionism-Talmud-Kabbala issue, but may have to bring that up in a future post, because it is rather involved; indeed the Judaism-Zionism-Talmud-Kabbala issue is VERY involved and often confusing. That's because one must know where the Talmud and the Kabbala (and its prophet, Zvi Sabbatai) are coming from. The answer would surprise most Christian Zionism and might even surprise its main proponent, Pastor John Hagee.

Why Christian Zionism is not Biblical

In the future I will have more on this (just as I have commented on this in previous posts, I am fairly sure), but for right now suffice it to say that the present-day Zionist and secular 1948 State of Israel is not God's Israel, and that is easily proven. God's Israel, in the Old Testament and especially the New Testament has nothing to do with imperfect man who lives by the flesh; witness the countless times in the Old Testament that God cursed both the Northern Kingdom Israel and the Southern Kingdom Judah because of idolatry and other forms of disobedience to God. While God certainly did bless Israel for the few times the Israelites (heretofore called "the Jews" for my purposes) did their best to try to "obey" God, that doesn't mean that God would forever look upon the Jews as His "chosen people." He did not communicate with the Jews through prophets after Malachi for a darned good reason--they had fallen into hopeless idolatry and had perverted His Word and His Laws to the point where He had to do something about it, but not before He sent all sorts of "stranger" invaders to continue to punish them: after the remnant returned to Jerusalem (see Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther) and tried to return to His law (but couldn't...see Malachi, who prophesied the Coming of the Lord and His prophet John the Baptist, the Elijah who "made His way straight") for a time, the Jews continued to violate God, and so, He sent, first the Greeks under Alexander and his minions (see the apocraphyl books "Maccabees 1 and 2" in your Catholic Bibles), and then the Romans, who, further cursing Israel for murdering Christ, Titus, who completely destroyed the Jewish nation in 70 AD. As I will show in either this post or the next or the next after that, it is what happened to the Jews after 70 AD that has seemingly sealed their fate to be thoroughly wedded to Mystery Babylon, Mother of Harlots, until the cleansing spoken of by Ezekiel, Joel, Zechariah and the other prophets during the last days (after the glory...see Zechariah 2:4 and 8-9), when the Jews will have it written onto their hearts that Christ is Lord of All. Now this doesn't sound very much as if God considered the Jews "His people"! To continue, the situation got so bad that God finally, after promising the Jews (who are NOT the people of promise! see Hebrews 11 and 12) that the Messiah would come, He finally sent Him. As we all know (read the Gospel of Matthew from chapter 5 on at the Sermon on the Mount), the Jews, with a few exceptions, spurned Christ and His Word, and, as we all know, the Jews with few exceptions had him murdered, shouted to "Crucify HIm" and claimed (in Matthew 27:25), "His blood be on us, and on our children." It was the Pharisees along with the Herodians (Jews who supported the Roman Empire), not the Romans (who just did the Jews' dirty work...these are truly the ones who "know not what they are doing"! Since the Pharisees plotted to have Christ killed, they knew EXACTLY what they were doing!) who killed Christ! They paid for it dearly in 70 AD (again, Christ foretold this in Matthew 24 and other places). They will pay for it in the future as well (see Revelation regarding "Sodom and Egypt", that is, Jerusalem in the latter times, the city of whores and (as per Hebrews) the "children of the bondwoman").

This is all very clear in the bible to me, a person who believes every word out of the mouth of God but has no degree in Bible Study at some seminary or Bible College. It is unfortunate that John Hagee, for one, doesn't see this. Now I like some things about Hagee: he is a very charismatic speaker with his booming voice and his "hallelujah to the Lamb of God" and other phrases and the fact that he provided a lot of help to Katrina victims. I like it that he is helping many Jews to return to Israel; the Jews like everyone else should have a homeland (the thing is, they should share it with the original inhabitants, the Palestinians!). Unlike Falwell and some other televangelists, he does not advocate Jewish return to Israel for the so-called purpose (as per Zechariah 12, as some read it, again with an ulterior motive) of two-thirds of them being slaughtered during the so-called "Great Seven Year Tribulation" (that period after the phony "rapture"). What Hagee believes and preaches in his huge Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, is that God has made a Covenant with Christians (culminating in the phony "rapture") as well as another Covenant with the Jews, who will return to an earthly and fleshly Zion here on Earth to live happily ever after WITHOUT ever having to accept Christ as their Messiah! That reading of the Bible is so false I am amazed that anyone actually believes this! (see Ezekiel 39:21-29, as well as Isaiah 45:23-25 and Philippians 2:9-11--EVERY KNEW SHALL BOW, AND EVERY TONGUE WILL CONFESS THAT JESUS IS LORD! That, Mr. Hagee, includes the Jews!!!

Now I want to get to the notion, usually spouted by Mr. Hagee, that the modern-day Zionist and secular State of Israel is "the apple of God's eye." He says this almost everytime I turn on his show on Daystar or CBN or TBN! WRONG! Let us look at the verse that this comes from, Zechariah 2:8, which says (the Lord of Hosts is speaking here to Zechariah--that is, Christ is speaking. God is not speaking here...see the context of the message):

"Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon (verse 7) For thus saith the Lord of hosts (Jesus); After the glory [(meaning the future coming 1,000 year millennial reign of Christ..."unwalled villages" (verse 4) (see Ezekiel 38)] hath he (YHWH Father God) sent me (Jesus, the Lord of Hosts, who is speaking) unto the nations which robbed you (Israel): for he that toucheth you (Israel) toucheth the apple of his (God's) eye. (verse 8)"

Hagee and others like him make a false comparison. First, this verse says that God sent Christ into the nations that robbed Israel. "He that toucheth you" means the nations that robbed Israel. "Toucheth the apple of God's eye" also means that nations that robbed Israel because those nations are where God sent Christ. "The apple of God's eye" means CHRIST, because as Christ is being sent to the nations that touched or robbed Israel, it would be natural that these nations would touch Christ, or "get" Christ or even "rob" (or take the Word of) Christ (who was intended to be sent to the lost House of Israel, only to be spurned by them until the end.)This, of course, makes Christ, not Israel, the "apple of God's eye." Further, you can understand this in the context of a father and child. Your son is the apple of your eye, correct? Now wouldn't Christ, God's only begotten Son, be the apple of His eye? to say that Israel is the "apple of God's eye" is to completely disregard the fact that God so despised the corruption of Israel that He refused to communicate with them for 400 years! And that He sent the Romans to destroy completely the nation of Israel in 70 AD! And that He called Israel "Sodom and Egypt"! NO! ISRAEL IS NOT THE APPLE OF GOD'S EYE!

Another quote that Hagee and others like to use to force Christians to be subservient to the interests of Zionist secular Israel is from Genesis 12:1-3, below:

The Lord (Christ, again) had said unto Abram, "Get thee out of thy country [that is Canaan, the land of Haran], and from thy kindred (Terah's people in Haran), and from they father's house (Terah), unto a land that I will show thee: (verse 1) And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make they name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: (verse 2) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. (verse 3)"

Hagee reads this to say that all Christians must bless Israel is they expect to get any blessings from God. Period. End of Story! Bless Israel and grow rich! But heaven help you if you curse Israel or say anything bad about it! In other words, if you don't believe like he does in "Israel Right or Wrong," or if you believe it is wrong for Israel to persecute Christians Palestinians (or for that matter Islamic ones) and say so, then God will curse you! RIDICULOUS! Strong delusion propaganda! This is in fact what Genesis 12:1-3 says and it again is very clear what is meant.

Christ tells Abram to get away from his folks into a land that Christ tells him to go to in verse 1. Notice he has not been given the name Abraham yet! In verse 2, Abram will not only produce a great nation but will also be blessed and become a great name. In verse 3, we get to the nitty-gritty. The Lord will bless Abram's defenders and curse Abram's enemies. We can see this happening in subsequent chapters, especially Chapter 14 when Abram and allies (for instance, the Elamites and Shinar) fought against Sodom and Gomorrah and Admah and Zeboiim and Bela to rescue Abram's nephew Lot among other reasons. Well, wouldn't it be a truth to say that God cursed Sodom and Gomorrah? And wouldn't it be true to say God blessed Elam and Shinar, which would soon become strong nations (that is, while Sodom and Gomorrah disappeared a short while later, Elam and Shinar stayed on for many hundreds of years after). Verse 3 also says that in Abram all the families of the earth would be blessed. This of course refers to the fact that through Abram would come Jesus Christ. THIS SAYS NOTHING ABOUT ISRAEL...IT IS ABOUT THE COMING OF CHRIST!!! Christ, Who would bless all the nations with His saving grace and His salvation for all mankind!

Well, that's it for today...I am going to have to leave the discussion of the fallacy of Zionism and Talmudism and Kabbalaism for later. By the way, according to Barry Chamish, who is NOT an Orthodox Torah-believing Jew that I have corresponded with, true Judaism has NOTHING to do with either Zionism, Talmudism, Kabbalaism or Zvi Sabbatai, and I'll get into that next time. but I must say this issue is crucial for Christians to understand.

Deborah Lagarde